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Conceptual Art
  • critical theory
  • wrappers
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  • 20 x 14 cm.
  • 272 pp.
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  • unsigned and unnumbered
  • ISBN 0525472711

Conceptual Art

[First Edition]

Ursula Meyer, Vito Acconci, Terry Atkinson, Art & Language, David Bainbridge, John Baldessari, Robert Barry, Frederick Barthelme, Gregory Battcock, Bernd & Hilla Becher, Mel Bochner, Daniel Buren, Victor Burgin, Donald Burgy, Ian Burn, Mel Ramsden, Rosemarie Castoro, Jan Dibbets, Dan Graham, Hans Haacke, Douglas Huebler, Stephen Kaltenbach, On Kawara, Alain Kirili, Joseph Kosuth, Christine Kozlov, Sol LeWitt, Mario Merz, Robert Morris, Bruce Nauman, Iain Baxter, N.E. Thing Co., Dennis Oppenheim, John Perreault, Adrian Piper, Edward Ruscha, Bernar Venet, Lawrence Weiner, Ian Wilson

Compendium of documentation and artist's projects by / about Vito Acconci, Terry Atkinson, Art & Language, David Bainbridge, John Baldessari, Robert Barry, Frederick Barthelme, Gregory Battcock, Bernhard & Hilla Becherr, Mel Bochner, Daniel Buren, Victor Burgin, Donald Burgy, Ian Burn, Mel Ramsden, Rosemarie Castoro, Jan Dibbets, Dan Graham, Hans Haacke, Douglas Huebler, Stephen James Kaltenbach, On Kawara, Alain Kirili, Joseph Kosuth, Christine Kozlov, Sol LeWitt, Mario Merz, Robert Morris, Bruce Nauman, Iain Baxter [N. ... [details]

$45.00
Condition:  Very Good. Light wear to covers. Contents clean and unmarked.
[Object # 39518]
L'Art Conceptuel, Une Perspective
  • exhibition catalogue
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  • sewn bound
  • black-and-white
  • 27.5 x 23 cm.
  • 248 pp.
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered
  • ISBN 9782853460712

L'Art Conceptuel, Une Perspective

[First Edition]

Suzanne Pagé, Claude Gintz, Benjamin H.D. Buchloh, Charles Harrison, Gabriele Guercio, Seth Siegelaub, Giovanni Anselmo, Art & Language, Michael Asher, John Baldessari, Robert Barry, Mel Bochner, Alighiero E Boetti, Marcel Broodthaers, Stanley Brouwn, Daniel Buren, Victor Burgin, Andre Cadere, Hanne Darboven, Jan Dibbets, Marcel Duchamp, Dan Flavin, Dan Graham, Hans Haacke, Eva Hesse, Douglas Huebler, Jasper Johns, On Kawara, Yves Klein, Joseph Kosuth, Sol LeWitt, Piero Manzoni, Robert Morris, Bruce Nauman, Claes Oldenburg, Roman Opalka, Adrian Piper, Robert Rauschenberg, Edward Ruscha, Robert Smithson, Bernar Venet, Lawrence Weiner, Ian Wilson, Art & Project

Exhibition catalogue published in conjunction with show held November 22, 1989 - February 18, 1990. Preface by Suzanne Pagé. Essays by Claude Gintz, Benjamin H.D. Buchloh, Charles Harrison, Gabriele Guercio, and Seth Siegelaub. ... [details]

$200.00
Condition:  Good. Bumping of corners and cover edges with adjacent creasing. Yellowing and dust soiling of covers with additional 4.2 cm. area of soiling to verso. Light bumping of page corners. Contents clean and unmarked. Includes "compliments of" card from the Musée d'Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris, in French. This copy includes the tipped-in text by Joseph Kosuth, "Joseph Kosuth Responds to Benjamin Buchloh" [in English], affixed to page 54. Due to large size and weight additional shipping charges will be required for international orders.
[Object # 39355]
Kunst Bleibt Kunst : Projekt '74
  • exhibition catalogue
  • pictorial wrappers
  • offset-printed
  • glue bound
  • black-and-white & color
  • 30 x 21 cm.
  • 436 pp.
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered

Kunst Bleibt Kunst : Projekt '74

Dieter Ronte, Evelyn Weiss, Wulf Herzogenrath, Marlis Grüterich, Manfred Schneckenburger, Albert Schug, David A. Ross, Birgit Hein

Exhibition catalogue published in conjunction with show held July 6 - September 8, 1974. Artists include Ivor Abrahams, Vito Acconci, Richard Alpert, Eleanor Antin, Robert Arn, David Attwood, Giovanni Anselmo, Shusaku Arakawa, Art and Language, David Askevold, Alice Aycock, Michael Badura, John Baldessari, Robert Barry, Lothar Baumgarten, Mel Bochner, Claus Böhmler, Christian Boltanski, Mark Boyle, Heinz Breloh, Marcel Broodthaers, Daniel Buren, Victor Burgin, Peter Campus, Giuseppi Chiari, Chuck Close, Tony Conrad, Claudio Costa, Norman Daly, Hanne Darboven, Douglas Davis, Ger Dekkers, Agnes Denes, Antonio Dias, Jan Dibbets, Braco Dimitrijevic, David Dye, Gill Eatherly, Heinz Emigholz, Valie Export, Murray Favro, Hans-Peter Feldmann, Simone Forti, Hollis Framton, Hamish Fulton, Franz Gertsch, Jon Gibson, Gilbert and George, Frank Gillette, Phil Glass, Dan Graham, Nancy Graves, Newton Harrison, Michael Hayden, Erwin Heerich, Birgit und Wilhelm Hein, Rebecca Horn, Douglas Huebler, Taka Iimura, Michel und Ourgan Jaffrennou, Alain Clerc Jaffrennou, Joan Jonas, Allen Kaprow, On Kawara, Josef Kosuth, Kurt Kren, David Lamelas, George Landow, Richard Landry, Nikolaus Lang, Jean Le Gac, Malcolm Le Grice, Les Levine, Richard McLean, Mario Merz, Maurizio Mochetti, Charlotte Moorman, Malcolm Morley, Bruce Nauman, Werner Nekes, Wolfgang Nestler, Ansgar Nierhoff, Dennis Oppenheim, Nam June Paik, Charlemagne Palestine, Giulio Paolini, A. ... [details]

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Record As Artwork 1959 - 73
  • exhibition catalogue
  • pictorial wrappers
  • offset-printed
  • staple bound
  • black-and-white
  • 18 x 18 cm.
  • [unpaginated]
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered

Record As Artwork 1959 - 73

Germano Celant

Exhibition catalogue published in conjunction with exhibition held November 1973. Essay by Germano Celant. Includes: Germano Celant, Jean Dubuffet, Lawrence Weiner, Sandro Chia, Joseph Beuys, Antonio Dias, Robin Mackenzie, Reiner Ruthenbeck, Jan Dibbets, Andy Warhol, Franca Sacchi, F. ... [details]

London, United Kingdom: Royal College of Art Gallery,
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Records by Artists : 1958 - 1990
  • reference book
  • pictorial wrappers
  • other printing process
  • sewn bound
  • black-and-white
  • 23.4 x 15.5 cm.
  • 286 pp.
  • edition size 1000
  • unsigned and unnumbered
  • ISBN 9788897753087

Records by Artists : 1958 - 1990

Giorgio Maffei, Marina Abramovic, Yaakov Agam (Jacob Gipstein), Albrecht D., Lucio Amelio, Cy Twombly, Robert Mapplethorpe, Charles Amirkhanian, Laurie Anderson, Karel Appel, Art & Language, The Red Crayola, Richard Artschwager, Robert Ashley, Attersee, Gerhard Rühm, Vittore Baroni, Robert Barry, François Baschet, Bernard Baschet, Jacques Lasry, Georg Baselitz, Cathy Berberian, Harry Bertoia, Marco Bertoni, Enrico Serotti, Joseph Beuys, Henning Christiansen, Nam June Paik, Bill Bissett, Eric Bogosian, Claus Böhmler, Christian Boltanski, Jean-François Bory, Glenn Branca, Jean-Louis Brau, Gil J. Wolman, François Dufrene, Günter Brus, Toni Bruynel, Dick Raaijmakers, Peter Struycken, Pol Bury, Tristram Cary, Ccmc, Sandro Chia, Henri Chopin, Bob Cobbing, Ernst Jandl, Hugh Metcalfe, Augusto Concato, Philip Corner, Salvador Dalí, Hanne Darboven, De Fabriek, Antonio Dias, Jan Dibbets, Die Tödliche Doris, Braco Dimitrijevic, Jim Dine, Roy McEwen, Friedhelm Döhl, Peter Downsbrough, Jean Dubuffet, Brian Eno, Valie Export, Wiener Monsti, Peter Faecke, Wolf Vostell, Flatus Vocis Trio, Terry Fox, Nicola Frangione, Katharina Fritsch, John Furnival, Ilse and Pierre Garnier, Seiichi Niikuni, John Giorno, Jack Goldstein, Peter Gordon, Dan Graham, Brion Gysin, Raymond Hains, Richard Hamilton, Dieter Roth, Bernard Heidsieck, Françoise Janicot, Gianni Bertini, Paul Armand Gette, Hans G. Helms, Juan Hidalgo, Ake Hodell, Dorothy Iannone, Sven Ake Johansson, Joe Jones, Marcello Jori, Asger Jorn, Rolf Julius, Allan Kaprow, Martin Kippenberger, Albert Oehlen, Markus Oehlen, Jorg Immendorf, A.R. Penck, Yves Klein, Milan Knížák, Imi Knoebel, Arthur Køpcke, Ferdinand Kriwet, Christina Kubisch, Fabrizio Plessi, Kisho Kurokawa, Joan La Barbara, Katalin Ladik, Laibach, Richard Landry, Maurice Lemaitre, Daniele Lombardi, Richard Long, Arrigo Lora Totino, Pier Virgilio Fogliati, Ralph Lundsten, Leo Nilsson, Jackson Mac Low, Walter Marchetti, Christian Marclay, Amerigo Marras, Bruce Eves, Henri Martin, Alessandro Mendini, Eugenio Miccini, Franz Mon, Meredith Monk, Otto Muehl, Bruno Munari, Maurizio Nannucci, Bruce Nauman, Hermann Nitsch, Yoko Ono, John Lennon, Plastic Ono Band, Roman Opalka, Takis, Charlemagne Palestine, Arthur Pétronio, Raymond Pettibon, Tom Phillips, Eliane Radigue, Vladan Radovanovic, Arnulf Rainer, Steve Reich, Enzo Rognoni, Paolo Baratella, Mimmo Rotella, Björn Roth, Karl Roth Karlsson, Reiner Ruthenbeck, Franca Sacchi, Marcello Morandini, Carles Santos, Sarenco, Franco Verdi, Sarkis, Mario Schifano, Nicolas Schöffer, Pierre Henry, George Segal, Michael Snow, Keith Sonnier, Jean Tinguely, Roland Topor, Ben Vautier, Bernar Venet, Marc Verstockt, Emilio Villa, Andy Warhol, Lou Reed, Peter Weibel, Loys Egg, Lawrence Weiner, Stefan Weisser, Robert Whitman, Emmett Williams, Hansjörg Mayer, Ror Wolf, La Monte Young, Marian Zazeela

Anthology of records by artists from 1958 - 1990 organized and with an essay by Giorgio Maffei. Artists / bands include: Marina Abramovic, Yaakov Agam (Jacob Gipstein), Albrecht D., Lucio Amelio, Cy Twombly, Robert Mapplethorpe, Charles Amirkhanian, Laurie Anderson, Karel Appel, Art & Language, The Red Crayola, Richard Artschwager, Robert Ashley, Attersee, Gerhard Rühm, Vittore Baroni, Robert Barry, François Baschet, Bernard Baschet, Jacques Lasry, Georg Baselitz, Cathy Berberian, Harry Bertoia, Marco Bertoni, Enrico Serotti, Joseph Beuys, Henning Christiansen, Nam June Paik, Bill Bissett, Eric Bogosian, Claus Böhmler, Christian Boltanski, Jean-François Bory, Glenn Branca, Jean-Louis Brau, Gil J. ... [details]

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$64.15
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The Context of Art, The Art of Context : 1969 - 1992 Project
  • exhibition catalogue
  • pictorial wrappers
  • offset-printed
  • sewn bound
  • black-and-white & color
  • 28 x 21 cm.
  • 271 pp.
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered
  • ISBN 8890145714

The Context of Art, The Art of Context : 1969 - 1992 Project

Seth Siegelaub, Marion Fricke, Roswitha Fricke, Giovanni Anselmo, Art & Language, Terry Atkinson, John Baldessari, Robert Barry, Bernd & Hilla Becher, Lynda Benglis, Mel Bochner, Alighiero e Boetti, Daniel Buren, Victor Burgin, Donald Burgy, Eugenia Butler, James Lee Byars, John Chamberlain, Ron Cooper, Paul Cotton, Jan Dibbets, Ger van Elk, Esther Ferrer, Rafael Ferrer, Hamish Fulton, Gilbert & George, Dan Graham, Giorgio Griffa, Hans Haacke, Alex Hay, Douglas Huebler, Robert Huot, Richard Jackson, Alan Jacquet, Neil Jenney, Stephen Kaltenbach, On Kawara, Michael Kirby, Joseph Kosuth, Gary Kuehn, David Lamelas, Sol LeWitt, Bernd Lohaus, Brice Marden, David Medalla, Mario Merz, Robert Morris, Doug Ohlson, Dennis Oppenheim, Eric Orr, Giuseppe Penone, Adrian Piper, Michelangelo Pistoletto, Emilio Prini, Markus Raetz, Charles Ross, Allen Ruppersberg, Edward Ruscha, Reiner Ruthenbeck, Robert Ryman, Alan Saret, Sarkis, Jean-Frederic Schnyder, Richard Sladden, Keith Sonnier, Richard Tuttle, Timm Ulrichs, De Wain Valentine, Bernard Venet, Frank Lincoln Viner, Franz Erhard Walther, William Wegman, Lawrence Weiner, William T. Wiley, Ian Wilson

An impressive book in which Seth Siegelaub reconnects with artists he engaged with in the late 1960s within the exhibition March 1969 as well as within the exhibitions Op Losse Schroeven, Live in Your Head, When Attitudes Become Form, Konzeption Conception, and Prospekt 69. ... [details]

Trieste, Italy: Navado Press,
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$350.00
Condition:  Fine. As New in publisher's shrink-wrap. Due to size and weight additional shipping charges may be required.
[Object # 23802]
Street Works II
  • ephemera
  • offset-printed
  • black-and-white
  • 28 x 21.6 cm.
  • [1] pp.
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered

Street Works II

Vito Hannibal Acconci, Terence Anderson, Arakawa, Gregory Battcock, Matthew Benedict, Michael Brownstein, Scott Burton, James Lee Byars, Rosemarie Castoro, Eduardo Costa, Bill Creston, Larry Fagin, Madeline Gins, John Giorno, Bobbi Gormley, Tom Gormley, Dan Graham, Katherine Greef, Stephen Kaltenbach, Joseph Kosuth, Leandro Katz, Alcides Lanzy, Lucy Lippard, Rosemary Mayer, Ben Patterson, John Perreault, Lil Picard, Adrian Piper, H Alexander Roberts, Marjorie Strider, Mr. T., Bernar Venet, Frank Lincoln Viner, Anne Waldman, Lewis Warsh, Luis Wells, Hannah Weiner, Lawrence Weiner

Flyer / announcement published to promote events held between 13th and 14th Streets and 6th and 5th Avenues, New York City, on April 18, 1969. Participating artists included Vito Hannibal Acconci, Terence Anderson, Arakawa, Gregory Battcock, Matthew Benedict, Michael Brownstein, Scott Burton, James Lee Byars, Rosemarie Castoro, Eduardo Costa, Bill Creston, Larry Fagin, Madeline Gins, John Giorno, Bobbi Gormley, Tom Gormley, Dan Graham, Katherine Greef, Stephen Kaltenbach, Joseph Kosuth, Leandro Katz, Alcides Lanzy, Lucy Lippard, Rosemary Mayer, Ben Patterson, John Perreault, Lil Picard, Adrian Piper, H Alexander Roberts, Marjorie Strider, Mr. ... [details]

[New York], [NY]: ,
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$450.00
Condition:  Fair / Good. Folded in three and two tape stains. Name of recipient on verso in ink.
[Object # 14308]
Conceptual Art and Conceptual Aspects
  • exhibition catalogue
  • wrappers
  • offset-printed
  • glue bound
  • black-and-white
  • 28 x 21.5 cm.
  • [unpaginated]
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered

Conceptual Art and Conceptual Aspects

Donald Karshan, Joseph Kosuth, Frederick Barthelme, On Kawara, Christine Kozlov, Terry Atkinson, Michael Baldwin, David Bainbridge, Harold Hurrell, Ian Burn, Roger Cutforth, Meld Ramsden, Bruce Nauman, Dennis Oppenheim, Stephen Kaltenbach, Jan Dibbets, Douglas Huebler, Iain Baxter, Robert Barry, Hans Haacke, Daniel Buren, Bernar Venet, Ian WIlson, Mel Bochner, Saul Ostrow, Lawrence Weiner, Edward Ruscha, Donald Burgy, James Lee Byars, Adrian Piper

Exhibition catalogue published in conjunction with show held April 10 - August 25, 1970. Organized and catalogue compiled by Donald Karshan. Incorporates statements by conceptual artists in the show including Joseph Kosuth, Frederick Barthelme, On Kawara, Christine Kozlov, Terry Atkinson, Michael Baldwin, David Bainbridge, Harold Hurrell, Ian Burn, Roger Cutforth, Meld Ramsden, Bruce Nauman, Dennis Oppenheim, Stephen Kaltenbach, Jan Dibbets, Douglas Huebler, Iain Baxter, Robert Barry, Hans Haacke, Daniel Buren, Bernar Venet, Ian WIlson, Mel Bochner, Saul Ostrow, Lawrence Weiner, Ed Ruscha, Donald Burgy, James Lee Byars, and Adrian Piper. ... [details]

$300.00
Condition:  Very Good. Rubbing of covers including a 16 mm. vertical mark on recto. 2 mm. dent on verso with 2.5 cm. area of light soiling. Includes two-sided sheet of text "The Seventies: Post-Object Art" by Donald Karshan, folded in two with two 1 mm. tears to right side edge and a 6 mm. dog-ear to top right corner of sheet. Contents clean and unmarked.
[Object # 38516]
$300.00
Condition:  Good / Very Good. 4 cm., 3 mm., 9 mm., and 1.9 cm. of bumping to recto with light soiling and additional overall dust soiling of covers and a 2 mm. and 4 mm. spot of soiling to recto. 8 mm. tear and a 7 mm. tear to bottom edge of spine. 4.4 cm. of bumping adjacent to bottom edge of verso carrying through to last eight pages, contents otherwise clean and unmarked. Includes two-sided sheet of text "The Seventies: Post-Object Art" by Donald Karshan with 3 mm. creases along length of top, bottom, and right edges of sheet with yellowing and tears measuring 4 mm., 3 mm., and 1 mm.
[Object # 38517]
$300.00
Condition:  Good / Very Good. Mild wear and soiling to covers and spine. Contents clean and unmarked. Includes slipped in two page text "The Seventies: Post-Object Art" by Donald Karhan issued in conjunction with the show and dated April 9, 1970.
[Object # 38089]
Catalogue of Artists' Books
  • reference book
  • wrappers
  • offset-printed
  • staple bound
  • black-and-white
  • 22 x 9 cm.
  • [48] pp.
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered

Catalogue of Artists' Books

Printed Matter, Carl Andre, Edit deAk, Sol LeWitt, Lucy Lippard, Walter Robinson, Pat Steir, Irena von Zahn, Robin White

First full-scale catalogue published by Printed Matter in December 1976 indexing their initial inventory of artists' books. Publication documents available titles from: Roberta Allen, Kathy Acker, Billy Adler, Laurie Anderson, Jacki Apple, Arakawa, Madeline Gins, Richard Artschwager, John Baldessari, Robert Barry, John Bennett, Karl Beveridge, Carole Condé, Mel Bochner, Marv Bondarowicz, Joe Brainard, Hans Breder, Lee Breuer, Ann Elizabeth Horton, Stig Broegger, Stanley Brouwn, Daniel Buren, William Burroughs, John Giorno, Loren D. ... [details]

$750.00
Condition:  Very Good. Very light cover wear with some light folds to verso covers at spine. Interior clean and unmarked.
[Object # 26359]
Neue Galerie der Stadt Aachen Der Bestand '72 : Kunst um 1970 - Art Around 1970
  • exhibition catalogue
  • board covers
  • offset-printed
  • sewn bound
  • other special feature[s]
  • black-and-white & color
  • 24 x 22.5 cm.
  • [unpaginated]
  • edition size unknown
  • unsigned and unnumbered

Neue Galerie der Stadt Aachen Der Bestand '72 : Kunst um 1970 - Art Around 1970

Eva Aeppli, Hans Peter Alvermann, John de Andrea, Arakawa, Allan D'Arcangelo, Richard Artschwager, Dieter Asmus, Jo Baer, William Bailey, Robert Bechtle, Saskia de Boer, Christian Boltanski, K.P. Brehmer, Peter Brüning, Rafael Canogar, Mario Ceroli, Dan Christensen, Christo, John Clem Clarke, Chuck Close, Ron Cooper, Alan Cote, George Deem, , Rolf-Gunter Dienst, Donald Eddy, Erro, Wojciech Fangor, Robert Filliou, Gérard Gasiorowski, Juan Genoves, Franz Gertsch, Piero Gilardi, Domenico Gnoli, Ralph Goings, Robert Graham, Gotthard Graubner, Sante Graziani, Nancy Stevenson Graves, Renato Guttuso, Ira Joel Haber, Duane Hanson, Jann Haworth, Paul Harris, Michael Heizer, Alex Hay, David Hockney, Robert Indiana, Alfred Jensen, Allan Jones, Howard Kanovitz, Alex Katz, Ellsworth Kelly, Konrad Klapheck, Alfred Leslie, Barry Le Va, Roy Lichtenstein, Richard Long, Lee Lozano, Walter De Maria, Richard McLean, Rune Mields, Jacques Monory, Nicholas Monro, Malcolm Morley, Robert Morris, Peter Nagel, Bruce Nauman, Lowell Nesbitt, Siegfried Neuenhausen, Ansgar Nierhoff, Pino Pascali, Pavlos, Philip Pearlstein, Walter Pichler, Michelangelo Pistoletto, Tom Phillips, Mel Ramos, Robert Rauschenberg, Gerhard Richter, Klaus Rinke, Dieter Rot [aka Dieter Roth], Dieter Rot [aka Dieter Roth], George Segal, Richard Serra, Leon Polk Smith, Robert Smithson, Keith Sonnier, Bernard Schultze, Lawrence Stafford, Lewis Stein, Curt Stenvert, Nikolaus Störtenbecker, Sidney Tillim, Joe Tilson, Cy Twombly, Dietmar Ullrich, Bernar Venet, Jan Voss, Wolf Vostell, John Walker, Andy Warhol, Robert Watts, Tom Wesselmann, Stefan Wewerka, Doug Wheeler, Lambert Maria Wintersberger, Peter Young, Jim Dine, Alain Jacquet, Jasper Johns, Kenneth Noland, Martial Raysse, James Rosenquist, Dieter Rot [aka Dieter Roth], John Salt

Exhibition catalogue published in conjunction with show of privately held works and works from the New Realism exhibition, held at the Neue Galerie der Stadt Aachen, Germany, July 1972. Book features thick-board covers with lenticular / holographic image of works by Duane Hanson bolted onto front. ... [details]

$75.00
Condition:  Fair / Good. Tearing of spine edges measuring 4 cm. and 6.3 cm. with additional rubbing. Light rubbing and scuffing of lenticular covers. Yellowing and dusting of text block edge.1.8 cm. dog-ear to endpaper and light bumping of top right corner of pages. Contents otherwise clean and unmarked. Due to size and weight of this publication additional shipping charges will be required for international orders.
[Object # 38161]
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